Coming up on November 10: Unseen with Lindley + Bri Campos

Imagine taking a photo doesnโ€™t scare the living sh*t out of you.. but actually excites you?

Imagine looking at a photo + appreciating the experience [instead of mentally photoshopping your body]

Imagine seeing your body as art + pictures as a form of self expression?

What if we told you this is possible?

We know this possible because not only is this OUR individual stories, but weโ€™ve worked with so many people whoโ€™ve experienced this healing.

Fat photographer and activist Lindley Ashline @bodyliberationwithlindley + fat body image therapist and coach Bri Campos @bodyimagewithbri want to help you become part of the memories again.

UNSEEN is a 75 minute picture grief master class will teach you how to empower yourself to reclaim what is most important: your presence in memories and to be fully and unapologetically seen. 

Hereโ€™s what to expect inside this joint class:
* a brief exploration of the history of fatness
* understanding how to disentangle from westernized beauty standard
* a framework to navigate the emotional experience of picture taking
* practical steps to physically get back into pictures

A replay will be available to those who purchase.

Join us on SUNDAY November 10 at 7 pm Eastern time/6 pm Central/5 pm Mountain/4 pm Pacific.

The link is available for purchase in our bios.
Get an early bird discount with CODE: UNSEEN10 until November 4.

Replay of Instagram Live

Bri and I met up this week to chat about what you can expect at the Unseen masterclass, so the video below is a great taste of the topics we’ll be covering. Scroll down for a full transcript.

Transcript

https://youtu.be/Amh019fUOCI

โ€Š We are going live to talk about picture grief. If that resonates with you, the idea of why do we avoid taking photos? Why, when somebody says, Hey, let’s get a photo, you have a visceral reaction in your body. Or when you know that a photo is coming up, what happens inside of your body that. Makes us want to avoid this thing.

This is what I identify as picture grief. And so my friend and colleague Lindley Ashline, who is a photographer is going to be joining us today. Hold on. I’m going to put my little ring light on. Look at that. As you join, drop below, say hello. So glad to be here with you. Happy Halloween. Hopefully I don’t get any trigger treaters.

I don’t normally get trigger treaters, but Lindley is here. So we’re going to jump….

Of course, nobody usually bothers me unless I’m, you know, going live. I keep trying to accept you, Lindley. I don’t know why it’s not letting me.  Hello! We did it!  How are you?  Good! Happy Halloween! Happy Halloween!  I wore Kida for Halloween. That’s, that’s as close as an outfit or a costume you’re gonna get from me. 

I just want, you know, anybody who’s listening to this live just collectively, we can all just take a deep breath. I know there’s a lot of like energy and feelings you know, especially if you’re in the U. S. with the election coming up. And I’ve many calls that I’ve been on for myself, my, my own coaching, my own counseling.

It’s like, why don’t we just start.  With a deep breath, anchoring into here, so I invite you to do that. How are you doing today?  

I’m good. I have been, I’ve been making friends with a feral cat that, or like a community cat that I’ve been, I’ve been feeding her for almost a year now. And I finally got serious about like trying to, to make friends and maybe bring her indoors.

As opposed to just putting kibble out and watching her come and eat it, you know? She is very spicy.  She’s very, she’s very, she’s very bold. She has her, her name is Boundary Queen because she knows her boundaries and knows what she wants and does not hesitate to set her boundaries, and she usually does that by swatting  with like I’ve been, I’ve been getting advice from somebody who works a lot with feral cats and, and on her advice, I started wearing half gloves.

Interacting with this cat. And so whenever she starts acting like she’s gonna swat me with her claws, I pull, I pull my fingers back into, like, the glove part. And she gets really confused, because she’s like, Why is there no tender, vulnerable flesh for me to  feed the claw?  Or bite. Occasionally people like bite the glove and it looks so unsatisfied.

But she is,  but she is gorgeous and I’m determined to win her over. I love that. 

Whenever anyone says, Oh, the cat is feral. I’m like, I’m a little bit feral too. So it’s okay.  

Yeah, 

too am food motivated.  I too will come right up to you if you give me, if you give me a snack. And if 

you touch me and I don’t want to be touched.

I’m gonna, I’m gonna, I’m gonna say some things to you. So, respect. I’m here for it. We’re talking today about why we are not getting into photos. Why do we avoid photos? And what do we do about it? As a photographer, I imagine you are working with people who have already decided, I’m going to get into the photo. 

Does that feel, no, that’s not true.  

You know, yes and no. In the last month I have worked with both someone who who has who has been a client before and has come back for more photos. And this person is like, they’re ready, they’re, they’re sort of advanced, they’re ready to see themselves in different stages of their life.

Yeah. And, and this person is like, yes, I want to. feature my changing body as I age and as I go through life stages. Like let’s feature my belly. Let’s, let’s really focus on my arm. Like, like let’s, let’s do it. And I’ve also worked with somebody who had to get headshots for work. And so it’s a medical office here in Seattle that I do staff photos for every year or two.

And now whenever they have a new employee, they just send that employee to me to get, like, headshots done. And, and that person is a total sweetie. I’m really excited that they’re joining this group. And also, so scared to get photos done. And,  and these are people in all kinds of bodies. You know, it’s not, it’s not just about your body size or your, whether you have ever had an eating disorder.

Like it’s, it’s everybody, everybody has body hangups. And, and, and so like,  usually the people who come to me who are, Not who are not super into it, or they’re either because it’s part of their eating disorder recovery, or they’re there for work, or they have some other reason beyond just I’m ready to do it.

But, but, yeah, it’s kind of people in all stages, and it’s such a joy to help people move through those stages.  

I remember for me, like, I started identifying with picture grief.  I knew that it was a feeling. I didn’t have the name for it yet, but that like, when I go out with my friends, if I looked like this and I didn’t have makeup on or my hair done, I’d be like, Oh, I don’t want to get in the photo.

Or if you know I looked at a photo and I thought I was going to look differently in my mind. And I would, I would look at that photo and be like, Oh my gosh. Get filled with shame and sadness.  And grief of that’s not who I thought I was going to see when I looked at that photo. And so after kind of developing this, you know, terminology around body grief or, you know, leaning into the concept of body grief, I still.

Had grief when I’d look at photos and I realized, Oh, this is just a new layer to the grief. If you’ve been following me for any amount of time, I say the body image is an archeological dig. And in the dig,  we, we have no destination. We’re not going, we’re not trying to get somewhere. We’re just trying to gather information and taking a picture and having a visceral reaction to it.

Is information. What information is it be? Is it telling you? And so I have two things that I think contribute. And if you have anything else that you think adds to it. The first, right, we avoid photos one because of grief and two because of the beauty standard. So let’s start with the, the beauty standard.

Like, why,  like, why do you think that when we’re taking a photo  of just, you know, out, out, out to an event Halloween with friends  that our mind filters through the beauty standard? Tell us what, tell us what your thoughts are.  

We could talk for hours about this. And in fact, we will, but  it’s there, there’s so many components to this.

But a big one is the, the gap between where we think we are. And as far as the physical appearance, the physical bodies that we inhabit in the world, and the standards that we have in our heads of what we should look like, 

that 

gap is really distressing because we are taught, like, when we say this is a beauty standard, we are taught that Like a standard is something that we need to meet.

And it’s no different from in, in the way that it affects us. It’s no different from, say, a standard of morality or a standard of education or a standard of physical ability. We have elevated certain traits in our society and because like kids who are 3 years old. Know what beauty standards are.

They have opinions on body. Like no three year old is going to be like, this is a beauty standard, but it’s I don’t have kids, but if I did, like one of mine might be, but  they know, they know which bodies are good. I’m putting air quotes around this and which ones are bad. Because, because it’s, it infuses our whole society.

And so something that has been internalized. We weren’t born with it, but when we spend our whole lives having it internalized, of course it is distressing when, when we are forced to face that gap.  

Yeah. Right. It’s because the gap represents boss  of if the beauty standard is safe, everything else is not. 

And we don’t, you don’t come into this world Hating your body. That is not something that is you’re born with. That’s learned. And so we have probably learned as early as three years old.  Which bodies are good, which bodies are bad, how we should feel about bodies. There’s a statistic that says I think it’s like 80 percent of 10 year old girls have already been on a diet and they’re afraid of becoming fat more so than their parents dying of the world going to war or cancer.

They’re more afraid of fatness than these other things. Why is that? There’s a reason that that exists.  

Yeah. Lots of reasons, but it comes back to, it actually comes back to race. And this would be cute. This was a huge not turning. Point, but I think huge point of advancement for me and my own learning journey about bodies and body image, because we don’t think of those things as being connected  and there’s, there’s a scholarship that’s now available. 

we now know, tracing the history back, how body image and race, body image and whiteness are connected.  Sometimes when I talk about this, people’s eyes kind of glaze over because it’s a lot. It’s confronting, especially those of us who are watching this who are white, for me as a white woman you know, it’s very confronting to realize that these, these systems are connected, the system of beauty and power, the system of body image, the system of The concepts of race and racism, how that they’re connected because it feels very, it feels very overwhelming and it feels really, it feels really it can feel very defeating or very just  overwhelming to, to think how I feel about my body again, particularly as a non black person. 

Is connected to these huge systems when I’m just one person. And Marie, don’t let me talk for too long because I will. But, but the,  we were talking about gaps. I don’t even know. Like you were 

talking about the roots of, of, of racism in the beauty standard. Right. That’s an important, and I think there’s often such a disconnect.

Like, When people are either in eating disorder recovery or like learning about body image, we hear body positivity,  but we think like love the skin. You’re in not body liberation. People do not understand the social justice. Aspect of liberation of body liberation of the body positivity movement. And so it’s not about just loving what you look like on the outside.

It is advocating that all bodies are treated with human decency and respect.  

I can feel very overwhelming when it’s like, okay, okay, but, but I just was concerned about my cellulite. And now you’re telling me,  

I don’t like how I feel when I look at it, like, look at my reflection. Yeah. 

Right. And, and, and so, so we have to be cognizant that. 

The things that we have learned from when we were two or three years old on, the things that tell us which bodies are good, which bodies are bad, which bodies we should aspire for our bodies to be like, that that is part of larger systems, but it’s also okay to be concerned about yourself as an individual. 

Yes,  and like I know we’ve talked about this, and you know, we’ll get into this. In our masterclass that we’re, we’re doing on, on picture grief in this like in depth of like, okay, does this mean I can’t wear makeup anymore? Like, what is, what does all of this mean? And I think we need to separate all of that out.

And we need to first focus on, The reason you’re not getting back into the photos. And for me, another reason that comes up is grief, right? It’s the distress. It is the feeling of this does not feel good or safe to do.  And what that tells me is that there is trauma here then, that there are something about being in photos that feels traumatic. 

I can hear the wheels turning for people and being like,  I understand what you’re saying, but it feels like it shouldn’t be that way. Trauma don’t care. Trauma does not care if you feel like it’s a good enough reason. Your visceral reaction is telling you what your body is experiencing. It is sensing that something is wrong. 

What I like to call, when we connect to that, that, that distress I like to call it like the fire alarm. The body image fire alarm is going off. Because we have this hatred for ourselves, for our bodies, we interpret that it’s a bad thing. Connection of, oh this, this is bad, I’m seeing this thing, I’m seeing a larger bodied photo of myself, and I am I feel badly about it. 

That’s the feeling badly about it is connected to the beauty standard.  But yeah, it’s exactly 

right. Yeah, it’s exactly what you were saying earlier about that gap between where we are and where we think we should be. You know, that gap is that is the loss and that’s where the grief is.  

Yeah. And like, as a photographer, Do you love every single photo that is taken of you?

No.  Same.  Like, there are far more photos, like, people are like, oh, like, I, there are photos I love of myself, even though the one that you, you know, took, you had me take when I was on my retreat, like, it’s probably one of my favorite photos. At this point, but there were a lot of photos that we took that weekend that I was like, Ooh, I don’t, I don’t love how I look here.

Again, that does not make me pro beauty standard.  Like it could be the ankle that it was caught at. It could, there could be some internalized, you know, anti fatness of like, Ooh, this makes me uncomfortable.  But the overall feeling of it doesn’t trigger me to get back in the photos anymore. Like it’s not going to stop me from being in the photos. 

Right. Like, I don’t think, I don’t think it is, I mean, maybe it’s possible. Maybe the Dalai Lama likes every photo. I don’t know. Maybe there’s some Zen personnel there that’s, you know, that has reached that, that, that standard. Yeah. Because, yeah, this is also not, this is also about not substituting more impossible standards for the impossible standards we’re getting rid of.

And so maybe there’s somebody out there that’s achieved like photo nirvana, but  we are always going to and even even if that person who had that fictional person out there that has the one person on the planet that has achieved that tomorrow, their body will change and they’ll have to do it again.

Yeah, this is not. It’s not a standard that is. 

And that can also feel very overwhelming and confronting to be like, wait, I just have to keep doing this. Yeah. Sorry. We’re human. That’s like,  

and it’s like, I just, I just was feeling bad about my cellulite. Like I wasn’t even thinking about the depths of how this goes. And so for people who are tuning in and hello to everybody who’s jumped on later.

So glad that you’re here. here. Thank you all for the love in the comments. We really appreciate it. For the person who’s like, okay, but I want to get back in the photos. Like I’m not yet ready to detach from beauty standards or I don’t even know how I would do that, but I’m simultaneously missing out on, on photos.

What, what would you recommend? What do you, how do you recommend folks begin to get back in the photos?  

So there’s a few different ways to go about it, depending on what your personality is like, and your The tools that work for you. So my goal is always to give people a variety of tools that they can choose to work with and then take the ones that really resonate that work for them.

Like if you have, if you have a whole set of professional paint brushes. In your professional paintbrush holder. I don’t know. I’m not a painter. Like you’re gonna have favorites. You’re gonna have ones that the the strokes just work for you and ones that that don’t and so one of the tools that I like to give people is is the knowledge of the power dynamics and the that’s why we talk about racism when we talk about beauty standards and we talk about these videos The less visceral things we talk about why you feel that way.

And for me, personally, that has been a very, very powerful tool  because if I can use that knowledge to fight back against those standards, like, even just in my own head. If I can say, Oh, I feel a certain way when I put my arm up in a photo and I see that photo of my, you can’t see it because I have a jacket on, but, but like my underarm wings.

Yeah. Yeah. Brie’s got hers out there. You know, I feel that way because I have been taught this because of the bigger system. So I’m a, I’m a big believer in giving people that knowledge about the systems. But we also, we also another tool that is helpful for a lot of people is. Seen how photos are constructed because photos are stories.

Oh. They may or may not capture the actual reality of that moment in time. Wow. And even if they do, even if they haven’t been altered a lot Yeah. Afterward, even if it’s just a snapshot that accurately, of course that second, it’s still one split second in time. Mm. And so, so we talk about that. We talk about like how Photoshop changes bodies.

We talk about. You know, we talk about all these things, and so I deal more in that kind of tool. I love that. And, and, and then the exposure therapy component of it. Yeah. Cause I sit, I sit with clients and we, we just look at your photos it’s like sit with whatever comes up. But I tend to deal a little more in, the systems in and the confrontational end of it a little bit more and Brie deals more with the feelings and, and that’s, that’s part of why I’m so excited to know Brie and to be doing this work together because, because the work that we do dovetails so beautifully. It’s so funny. 

Because I, I deal with the emotion piece, but I, what helps me is the logic piece is the, why, why does this matter to me?

Like, why do I care if I have, you know, the wings on my arms? Like, why do I care if my hair doesn’t look good? Like, what, where does this come from? For me, that, that, that logical understanding piece really is helpful. And from like Just a a  neurodivergent, like, social justice perspective. It’s like, well, who’s profiting from this thought?

Like, who, who profits from this belief system? Is it me? And if it’s not me, is somebody getting my money because of this belief? So that’s That’s, you know, first and foremost, but from the emotional perspective, it is the exposure therapy. We cannot work on the emotion unless you’re doing the thing.

And so it is getting back into the photos, even when it feels scary, and then dealing with the scary feelings as they arise. Now, my  recommendation is also going to be  We need to understand the distress. So, I don’t recommend being like, Okay, I watched Brie and Lonely Do It Live, I’m gonna go book a boudoir shoot. 

You might not be prepared for that! Like, we have to check in with your nervous system of does this even feel like something that’s tangible? And so we have to heal the distress. We have to figure out how to do that. And the first way that I do that is by just identifying it. I had a client recently who, who said, I’m gonna go do a boudoir shoot.

And I said, okay, on a scale of one to 10, how distressful does that feel? They said, A nine. I’m like, okay, that’s pretty high. Mm-Hmm, , you know, and I, and I hear that and I feel that, and I said. How would it feel to just get a regular photo shoot? And they got excited. They were like, Oh, that feels so much better. 

We get to, we get to honor that we get to lean into the feeling, even if it’s not logical, even if it doesn’t make sense. Pushing yourself past a place where you feel like you can go is not always helpful. And so I love scaling because it really helps us to identify, is it a high level of distress?

Am I going to go into a fight or flight response? Or am I moderately distressed? And it’s going to bring up emotion for me to work through and identify what came up in that experience.  

Yeah, and it feels funny as a photographer to say this  because because, you know, I make a living taking pictures of people.

I want people to be able to get in front of the camera, but, but if you are, yeah, if you’re at a nine out of a, on a distress scale, if you’re at a seven you know, I don’t I do so much emotional work with clients around their photos, but I’m also, you know, I’m human to you.  And, and there are, you know, not everybody is going to be ready for that.

And they’re in the tool. This is actually pretty recent knowledge gain for me. So I’ve just started working with with some clients around this. And this is more of a this is more in my other programs, as opposed to like, if you come in for photos,  you need. To be at the point where you’re ready for them, correct.

So we’re not, so this is like pre work, but but there’s a therapy thing and like a somatic thing, a framework that is working up to photos  that I’m really exploring that starting with, it starts with, and this is work you do with yourself. And it might be, it might be just you. It might be you with a therapist or a body image coach.

But it’s, it starts with touch work where you are starting to. Reacquaint yourself with the actual physical contours of your own body, and you’re picking an area that seems sensitive and you’re touching it. And then it works. It works through that up to mirror work where you are looking at that spot in the mirror, and maybe you’re touching it as well.

I suspect Bri knows more about this than I do. But but then the final stage of that is photos. And, and given the power dynamics involved of having a photographer with a camera I think the, the the next step in there would be taking for maybe taking photos of yourself and then having a pro do it simply because there are and this is another thing that I talk about to about the power dynamics.

I have there is a big power imbalance, a big power discrepancy between the subject who is having photos taken of them. And, and, you know, the person who is taking the photos and you know, and there, there have been boudoir sessions where somebody got really freaked out and I ended up stripping down to my own underwear to help, you know, to help do what I could to even out that balance because  power infuses every single thing that we have talked about today.

Whoa, whoa. Oh, that, that is,  I’m speechless and I don’t often get speechless.  Always have something to say. Wow.  

Power is every bit of it. And reclaiming that power, or claiming that power in the first place, is really what we’re talking about. 

And if it doesn’t feel powerful,  you have to think of it this way. 

This is now taken away from you. You no longer feel that you deserve to be seen. Because of the body that you exist in and there is  research on and you’ve talked about this, right? The erasure of fat people. You know, the history of fatness, fat people have always existed. We always will. There, there is, you know, when you look back in your photo albums and you look at on your phone, Are there time gaps missing because you didn’t feel that your body was worthy of being photographed?

If you can see it as something that’s being taken from you, that’s where we get to reclaim the power of, you know, I get to reclaim the photos, even if it’s hard, even if it’s distressful, even if it is uncomfortable, I deserve to be seen.  And and so I think that that that  can be a really positive motivator.

I know for me. It wasn’t about me.  It was about my my goddaughter that And I get emotional every time I say it, where I did not want to be the aunt that didn’t get in photos. I didn’t want her to not have memories with me together. And there are years and pictures of family that I don’t have, because they wouldn’t get in the photos.

And so, I, one, want to be in the photos for her, but I also would never want her. To not feel that she is worthy of being seen.  And so you have to figure out what your why is. And so if you’re watching us, you probably already have a why. There’s probably already something that’s motivating you to want to heal your relationship with your body image that you’re staying on this call, right?

On this live. Because you want, you want to want to be seen. But it feels hard. And I’ll, I’ll just want to give you the permission that it’s okay that it’s hard, like it’s allowed to be hard.  Yeah. So,  anything that you can leave folks with as like a takeaway from this call?  

You know, it, it is hard, but it is possible to, you know, it is possible to progress.

To not be stuck around it forever. You know, again, we are not replacing one impossible to meet standard with another. There is no, there is no picture nirvana. I just had my own photos done about a month ago. Which I have a whole thing I’m, I’m working on writing about, like, how a photographer prepares for her own photos and so on.

But although that, that’s mostly process as opposed to emotional. But, but. When I think about where I have come from between,  say, when I was about 20, and yes, there are time gaps in my own history, my own photographic history, you know, 5 or 6 years at a time when there’s just nothing because I was young, You know, I was too scared to get in the photos.

Part of the reason I took up photography in the first place was so I could be behind the camera and not in front of it,  which is, which is true of a lot of a lot of photographers, I think, but like, at some point, you know, we, we identify that it is easier emotionally to be behind the camera, but,  but, you know, going from these big gaps in my own history to,  To when I have my own photos done about a month ago.

Yes, of course I had feelings come up when I saw my own photos this time. But there were as many good ones and neutral ones and more, more neutral. Lots of good.  Lots of neutral. Yeah. Yeah. See negative ones, but they felt very manageable. And, and again, you know, I talk about these tools all the time.

So I have these tools to use for myself as well and being able to use these tools and say, okay, here’s why I feel this way. Here is where the, the, the direction of power here are the choices that I have available to me. And now I’m going to stare at these photos for a long time and use them everywhere.

I’m starting to use these new ones, you know, on social media and on my website and so on, like starting to replace the old ones. Because, not because the old ones are bad, just because they’re like six years old and, you know, I don’t look like that anymore. But,  but the point is that.  I went from not being able to be in the photos at all to being like, yeah, this is cool.

And in the few instances, it’s not cool. I’ve got the tools to manage this. That is entirely possible for all of us. Everybody is going to look different. Mind you, yours is not going to look like mine. Yours is going to look like yours, but, but having the tools means that you can make choices on how you want to react and what you’re going to do with that.

The feelings and things that come up and that is at least for me like having the tools is such a it is so hopeful and so It it feels powerful to me to even have the tools even if you’re not good at using them yet Even if you’re not, you know, not ready to use all of them even if it’s you know as a practice which it will be You know, just having those tools is having a lot of power back. 

I love that. That’s so, so powerful. I, I, well, I’m going to share honestly as well. You know, I think people assume this side of body liberation that like, you never struggle with how your body looks or how you feel in your body or your photos.  That’s a myth, right? Diet culture tells you, we will get you to a place where you don’t feel this way anymore.

I’m not promising that. I can’t promise that. But what I can tell you is that when I started this work, when I started my Instagram, 2018,  I would post photos of myself and I would,  I was so afraid. I was like, I don’t love how I look in this photo. I don’t think I look beautiful or cute or anything. But I did it because the internet would go wild, you know, posting flat person online, not me.

Being sad and people are like, Whoa, okay, cool. And so it forced me to look at photos of myself. And so when I started to dig into why is this hard for me? I realized that I only ever took photos. When I was on a diet,  I only ever took photos as before and afters. I had never just had photos of me in my larger body of this is just me on my birthday.

This is me on a Tuesday at a cafe. This is this is just me. And so when I recognized that, I said, Wow, I’m just not familiar with this. version of myself.  So keep going, right? Like, okay, so now I’m like, let’s do a photo shoot. I know what I need to do to get prepped for the photo shoot.  If you had asked me in 2018 if I would ever do a boudoir shoot, I would have told you no.

I would have said, absolutely not. That is a 10 level of distress. Fast forward to 2024  on my retreat. I held a, held a retreat in New Jersey. Lindley came virtually and she did a master class on how to pose in photos. And I ended up modeling a boudoir pose in front of my clients.  Like, didn’t do my hair, didn’t do my makeup, as is, and I had no emotional reaction.

I did not feel anxious about doing it. I was fully clothed, but it wasn’t even like, that evidenced to me of like, wow, several years ago this would have been impossible, and now it’s not even a thought. This is what happened. What makes healing our body image so hard is because the only thing we have to measure is lived experience and time. 

So we start with a thing that’s a little bit distressful so that we can get to the bigger things. And I guarantee you whatever it is that is making you not want to be in the pictures has very little to do with the picture itself.  We got to dig, we got to figure out what’s underneath that. And that is also why we are going to be hosting our masterclass, which if we want to tell you about, we are hosting a joint masterclass on tell me the date, November 10th. 

Yes, Sunday,  Sunday, November 10th, I believe it’s 7 p. m. My time and 4 p. m. Your time.  The master class is called unseen how to get back in the photos in this master class. I’m going to pull up our sales page. I can I can tell folks we’re going to do a brief history in exploring fatness, right? Let’s explore  the history of fat people.

We’re going to talk about  The beauty standard and how the history of fatness has entangled with the beauty standards and how to detangle ourselves from said beauty standard. We’re going to talk about a framework for navigating the emotional experiences of taking photos because. It might be, it might feel like a lot of work of like, Oh my God, I don’t, I don’t even know how to,  you know, disentangle from the beauty standards.

You still get to be part of the memories right now. So we’re going to give you a framework in which you can use and apply today. And if you can’t apply it today, you can save it and put it in your back pocket for, for a future day. And then we’ll just, we’ll, we’ll get into more nitty gritty. You know, experiences on or practices that you can do to get back into the photos.

The holidays are coming up. People are going to want to take photos and it would be an amazing measurement of if you feel like taking a photo now is a moderate level of distress. How will it feel when you have all of this information and we get to the we get to the end of December?  Has your  change? Has your awareness changed?

Have you been able to dig in to the beliefs? So anything you want to tell folks about our master class? I’m really excited. It’s gonna be so much fun.  

No, this is the first time Brie and I have done some collaborations before, but this is the first time that we have taught together. And I’m like, I’m like, I’m so excited.

I’m, I’m Talking over my own words because I’m excited. Yeah, all the things that we have touched on in, in this live, we’re going to be digging deeper in and I’m going to get to tell you all this stuff about all the history and power systems and so on, and we’re going to get to tell you all about the emotional component and, and and really. 

They said developing these tools for you to use in a way that I think is going to be very accessible and very, very okay. You know, Lindley has got you all mad because you, because I, I was going to say you should be mad. It is common to be mad when we really start learning how. We as a culture have been manipulated in the service of power and profit.

So Linley is going to be all social justice y at you. And we’re all going to get mad together. Or you know, whatever, or, or grieve together. Whatever comes up for you then. And here’s the part, is grief? Yeah and then we’re going to, we’re going to turn that into, let’s take that input into these tools that we’re, that we’re talking about.

And, and taking that. Those emotions that come up, anger or grief or or sadness or frustration or, or relief to know that it’s not you, it’s not you, and take that and turn it into these tools, like, kind of transmute it and, and Bree is going to give you lots of guidance on it, on how that works from the emotional end, and yeah, I’m just, I’m just so excited about this.

We’re working on the slides together right now. And, and yeah, I just, yeah, I do think it’s going to be phenomenal. It’s going to be, 

it’s going to be so great. And and I’m so excited to be able to do this, this collaborative class with you. The checkout cart is in both of our bios on Instagram.

And remind me, when does the coupon, we have an early bird coupon. I believe it’s ending.  I think it ends on the 1st. So it ends tomorrow.  Okay. So I think you, I think you get it. Like the coupon is good through till November 1st. So November 2nd, I believe. The coupon. I’m checking right now. Okay, cool. 

I did it long enough.

I don’t remember. 

I know we did it. I’m pulling, I’m pulling it up.  There will be a replay if you can’t join us, but I definitely recommend trying to join live. We’ll be able to do some Q and a and answer  live live questions. I’m going to encourage folks to, you know, maybe bring some photos and, you know, like, think through these things as we’re going through the class.

The information I guarantee will be, will be so, so valuable. So if you have any questions, you can reach out to either of us, but we hope you join us for our masterclass. And if not, I hope that you are getting back in the photos either way, because you deserve to be seen. You deserve to be remembered, no matter what body size you exist in. 

Early bird is Is unseen 10 and it ends on November 4th.  Okay, you actually have some time. Yeah, time before the early bird, early bird coupon expires. Fantastic only thank you so much for taking the time to chat with me.  Thank you everybody for joining and I hope you join us for our master class.  Yeah, all right.

Thanks. Good to talk with you.  Thanks for having me. See you later, everybody.

Hi there! I'm Lindley. I create artwork that celebrates the unique beauty of bodies that fall outside conventional "beauty" standards at Body Liberation Photography. I'm also the creator of Body Liberation Stock and the Body Love Shop, a curated central resource for body-friendly artwork and products. Find all my work here at bodyliberationphotos.com.

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